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	<title>Comments on: USSF unveils 2010 US Open Cup format</title>
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		<title>By: FCI Manager</title>
		<link>http://thecup.us/us-soccer-unveils-2010-lamar-hunt-us-open-cup-format/comment-page-1/#comment-1664</link>
		<dc:creator>FCI Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Josh - was looking toward the &#039;soccer&#039; picture and not the money side of it. Again having BIG clubs travel to small sides in the opening rounds is huge. Later on a fairy tail draw semifinal at a MLS stadium is just as nice  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Josh &#8211; was looking toward the &#8217;soccer&#8217; picture and not the money side of it. Again having BIG clubs travel to small sides in the opening rounds is huge. Later on a fairy tail draw semifinal at a MLS stadium is just as nice  <img src='http://thecup.us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Josh Hakala</title>
		<link>http://thecup.us/us-soccer-unveils-2010-lamar-hunt-us-open-cup-format/comment-page-1/#comment-1658</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Hakala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The major problem with FA Cup vs. Open Cup IS the travel. It takes about 10-12 hours for me to drive from the southern part of Michigan to the northern most part in the Upper Peninsula ... but you can drive from Glasgow to Portsmouth in less than 8. Having a blind draw would be great, but what if the NY Pancyprian Freedoms draw Chivas USA at the Home Depot Center. USSF only gives the teams so much money for travel, and I think you&#039;d blow your USSF money on the flight. So there&#039;s a reason why the format is what it is. They want it to be more regionalized. Plus, there&#039;s more possibilities for regional matchups (Richmond Kickers vs. DC United ... etc.), which also drums up interest. 

One could argue that if the USSF covered ALL of the travel costs, you could pull off a true &#039;blind draw&#039; ... but that&#039;s always the easy for us to say: &quot;Just spend more money!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The major problem with FA Cup vs. Open Cup IS the travel. It takes about 10-12 hours for me to drive from the southern part of Michigan to the northern most part in the Upper Peninsula &#8230; but you can drive from Glasgow to Portsmouth in less than 8. Having a blind draw would be great, but what if the NY Pancyprian Freedoms draw Chivas USA at the Home Depot Center. USSF only gives the teams so much money for travel, and I think you&#8217;d blow your USSF money on the flight. So there&#8217;s a reason why the format is what it is. They want it to be more regionalized. Plus, there&#8217;s more possibilities for regional matchups (Richmond Kickers vs. DC United &#8230; etc.), which also drums up interest. </p>
<p>One could argue that if the USSF covered ALL of the travel costs, you could pull off a true &#8216;blind draw&#8217; &#8230; but that&#8217;s always the easy for us to say: &#8220;Just spend more money!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: FCI Manager</title>
		<link>http://thecup.us/us-soccer-unveils-2010-lamar-hunt-us-open-cup-format/comment-page-1/#comment-1657</link>
		<dc:creator>FCI Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the FA CUP - why reinvent the wheel? Seems to work just fine over the pond and is full of great draws and even a few fairytale finals. And YES the big clubs DO travel, when a ManU plays 70% of their squad on a crap pitch in front of 3000 fans ANYTHING can happen. That is what makes the FA Cup head over heals better than our Cup run. Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the FA CUP &#8211; why reinvent the wheel? Seems to work just fine over the pond and is full of great draws and even a few fairytale finals. And YES the big clubs DO travel, when a ManU plays 70% of their squad on a crap pitch in front of 3000 fans ANYTHING can happen. That is what makes the FA Cup head over heals better than our Cup run. Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: ThomasK</title>
		<link>http://thecup.us/us-soccer-unveils-2010-lamar-hunt-us-open-cup-format/comment-page-1/#comment-1124</link>
		<dc:creator>ThomasK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Open&#039; cup? my elbow!

Not until the qualification formula is overhauled and there are no &#039;play-in&#039; matches to manipulate the schedule will it be able to describe itself with accuracy as an &#039;open&#039; competition.

MLS teams may not like travelling away to USASA teams, but that is how the excitement of the game is spread - they must go out there and prove they are better!

Depriving smaller clubs their annual opportunity to step up one or more levels to show their quality is a scandal that undermines the credibility of USSF to represent their membership and weakens their claim to stewardship of the sport.

Call it a meritocracy? No, it&#039;s a fix!

If USSF wants to be legitimate then the &#039;Open&#039; Cup must operate an &#039;open&#039; draw - no seedings.

From an economic perspective, repeats of recent league matches with added reserves are both meaningless and worthless - far better to put reputations on the line with a real and consequential test against unknown quantities. 

Add to this the lure of 7 extra MLS teams entering one round earlier in an expanded round-of-32 to create a higher quality product in more markets and it is sheer reckless folly on behalf of those responsible that they continue to persevere with the current flawed and contradictory system. This would mean no extra matches to create additional fixture congestion for players, while anticipation levels for a potential giantkilling is marketing goldust for supporters (attracting fans, not alienating us).

So, whether it is by simple ignorance or a desire to protect vested interests the sham &#039;openess&#039; is a transparent denial of the soccer community&#039;s competitive instinct - which is the fundamental objective of the sport and the reason why players get involved in the first place.

Only small changes need to be made to the cup format and could be done very easily to the benefit of many, but until they are the resistance to change will continue to create resistance to wider acceptance of the country&#039;s most popular sport.

It is a unique aspect of soccer in professional sports to be able and willing to pay it&#039;s dues to all levels of the pyramid and respect the wider community enough to step onto the field with so-called lesser teams and it should not be underestimated.

USSF has apparently yet to fully appreciate this lesson.

USSF: grow up or die!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Open&#8217; cup? my elbow!</p>
<p>Not until the qualification formula is overhauled and there are no &#8216;play-in&#8217; matches to manipulate the schedule will it be able to describe itself with accuracy as an &#8216;open&#8217; competition.</p>
<p>MLS teams may not like travelling away to USASA teams, but that is how the excitement of the game is spread &#8211; they must go out there and prove they are better!</p>
<p>Depriving smaller clubs their annual opportunity to step up one or more levels to show their quality is a scandal that undermines the credibility of USSF to represent their membership and weakens their claim to stewardship of the sport.</p>
<p>Call it a meritocracy? No, it&#8217;s a fix!</p>
<p>If USSF wants to be legitimate then the &#8216;Open&#8217; Cup must operate an &#8216;open&#8217; draw &#8211; no seedings.</p>
<p>From an economic perspective, repeats of recent league matches with added reserves are both meaningless and worthless &#8211; far better to put reputations on the line with a real and consequential test against unknown quantities. </p>
<p>Add to this the lure of 7 extra MLS teams entering one round earlier in an expanded round-of-32 to create a higher quality product in more markets and it is sheer reckless folly on behalf of those responsible that they continue to persevere with the current flawed and contradictory system. This would mean no extra matches to create additional fixture congestion for players, while anticipation levels for a potential giantkilling is marketing goldust for supporters (attracting fans, not alienating us).</p>
<p>So, whether it is by simple ignorance or a desire to protect vested interests the sham &#8216;openess&#8217; is a transparent denial of the soccer community&#8217;s competitive instinct &#8211; which is the fundamental objective of the sport and the reason why players get involved in the first place.</p>
<p>Only small changes need to be made to the cup format and could be done very easily to the benefit of many, but until they are the resistance to change will continue to create resistance to wider acceptance of the country&#8217;s most popular sport.</p>
<p>It is a unique aspect of soccer in professional sports to be able and willing to pay it&#8217;s dues to all levels of the pyramid and respect the wider community enough to step onto the field with so-called lesser teams and it should not be underestimated.</p>
<p>USSF has apparently yet to fully appreciate this lesson.</p>
<p>USSF: grow up or die!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Hakala</title>
		<link>http://thecup.us/us-soccer-unveils-2010-lamar-hunt-us-open-cup-format/comment-page-1/#comment-1014</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Hakala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 15:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not willing to concede a neutral field until teams prove they can attract a decent crowd to games they host.</description>
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		<title>By: WiscFan</title>
		<link>http://thecup.us/us-soccer-unveils-2010-lamar-hunt-us-open-cup-format/comment-page-1/#comment-1011</link>
		<dc:creator>WiscFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 08:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish it was on a neutral field too, and at least on FSC. It would probably not be on ESPN, because some National Team games are only on ESPN2 or Classic. And yes the prize money should be higher, but unless they get a title sponsor for the tourney they wont give it. Don&#039;t read this as getting rid of the name &#039;Lamar Hunt&#039; U.S. Open Cup and inserting &#039;Google&#039; U.S. Open Cup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish it was on a neutral field too, and at least on FSC. It would probably not be on ESPN, because some National Team games are only on ESPN2 or Classic. And yes the prize money should be higher, but unless they get a title sponsor for the tourney they wont give it. Don&#8217;t read this as getting rid of the name &#8216;Lamar Hunt&#8217; U.S. Open Cup and inserting &#8216;Google&#8217; U.S. Open Cup.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://thecup.us/us-soccer-unveils-2010-lamar-hunt-us-open-cup-format/comment-page-1/#comment-969</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 01:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great soccer tournament but with $100,000 for first place?  Hey U.S. Soccer what happened to all the 1994 WC money?  Make the top prize $500,000. And October 5 is a Tuesday night! Where is the final?  At a high school field near Main Street USA.  How about Red Bull Arena on October 9th, Saturday on ESPN!Get the picture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great soccer tournament but with $100,000 for first place?  Hey U.S. Soccer what happened to all the 1994 WC money?  Make the top prize $500,000. And October 5 is a Tuesday night! Where is the final?  At a high school field near Main Street USA.  How about Red Bull Arena on October 9th, Saturday on ESPN!Get the picture?</p>
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		<title>By: sol kesslar</title>
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		<dc:creator>sol kesslar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 16:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>geez louise people,constructive criticism is helpful,venomous attacks are uncool.Can&#039;t opinions be expressed without the personal attacks. It is football, not politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>geez louise people,constructive criticism is helpful,venomous attacks are uncool.Can&#8217;t opinions be expressed without the personal attacks. It is football, not politics.</p>
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		<title>By: shuggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>shuggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 15:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rest of Region IV has to go through an expensive youth like tournament to determine which two teams get in. This just goes to show that USSF and those running the Open Cup are clueless. This shows a complete lack of respect for all the other amateur teams. Here is one interesting fact... USSF claims that the Open Cup is oldest soccer tournament in the USA. Sorry the California State Cup started in 1902. But who really cares? Just trample over those that have built soccer. Thanks USSF... it sound like you&#039;ve once again screwed the amatuers for your ease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rest of Region IV has to go through an expensive youth like tournament to determine which two teams get in. This just goes to show that USSF and those running the Open Cup are clueless. This shows a complete lack of respect for all the other amateur teams. Here is one interesting fact&#8230; USSF claims that the Open Cup is oldest soccer tournament in the USA. Sorry the California State Cup started in 1902. But who really cares? Just trample over those that have built soccer. Thanks USSF&#8230; it sound like you&#8217;ve once again screwed the amatuers for your ease.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Hakala</title>
		<link>http://thecup.us/us-soccer-unveils-2010-lamar-hunt-us-open-cup-format/comment-page-1/#comment-910</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Hakala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 22:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the article says ... they are able to compete in the tournament because they are, in fact, a USSF-based club. But there&#039;s no place for them to qualify. The USASA is US Club Soccer&#039;s competitor, so they can&#039;t go through Region IV ... so what can they really do? I think it&#039;s a good solution to the problem. Plus, it rewards the NPSL champion too. If they&#039;re good enough to beat the NPSL champion, then that&#039;s probably not a bad addition to the tournament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the article says &#8230; they are able to compete in the tournament because they are, in fact, a USSF-based club. But there&#8217;s no place for them to qualify. The USASA is US Club Soccer&#8217;s competitor, so they can&#8217;t go through Region IV &#8230; so what can they really do? I think it&#8217;s a good solution to the problem. Plus, it rewards the NPSL champion too. If they&#8217;re good enough to beat the NPSL champion, then that&#8217;s probably not a bad addition to the tournament.</p>
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